http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread...85&page=8&pp=25

Originally Posted by herbei
Hy Erik,

i just downloaded versin 3.21 and disk quality test is not longer working for BTC 1108 IM. I always get the message: Drive does not support this function.
...gone back to 3.10 and all is working great.

thx

Do you get this error when testing DVDs or CDs? (or both?)


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halcyon
Thanks for the update Erik!

If you will, please consider the following wishes as potential future features to implement:

- scalable window (along with the graph)
- dynamic setting of all colours/scales in the graph (can be changed after the scan and the graph is redrawn), including background and grid colours
- addition of accurate units for blockheads like me ( PIE/ECC or PIE/8ECC, depending on what is being measured/graphed, now it just says 'PIE')

Of course, those are just my wishes

Thanks again for this great utility!

Thanks for the suggestions!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclone
C1/C2 scan of CD-R using Nu DDW-082 B375 in USB 2.0 case still locks up drive using ver 3.21 . Back to ver 3.00 for me.

There are indeed some issues with the C1/C2 error scan with Nu Tech drives.
NU Tech contacted me about this and I am now working on a solution.
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Originally Posted by Halcyon
BenQ DW1600A (fw. official b5g9) on XP, using Nero ASPI layer, does not report C1/C2 errors on cd-r disc using CD Speed 3.0, 3.10 or 3.16 (only jitter/speed are reported):

I've checked it and got the same result (ie. no C1 or C2 errors).
I will look into this.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ErikDeppe
CD-DVD Speed doesn't report damaged sectors with DVDs. Only good and unreadable sectors.

I hope this helps


Does it mean that "damaged sectors" will be included in the "good sectors" or there is no chance that DVDs will have "damaged sectors" on them¡H

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Quote:
Originally Posted by professor_nova
This is a CD-Writer, so only CDs

Actually, I just decided to do some tests. Here are the results:

Disk Quality Test (3.16 and 3.21)

Audio-CD (Pressed) - Works
Audio-CD (Recorded) - Don't work

Data CD (Pressed) - Works
Data CD (Recorded)(CD-R) - Don't work
Data CD (Recorded)(CD-RW) - Don't work

These are some strange results. I had never tried pressed CDs before, only CD-Rs.

I've tested with the LiteOn LTR-32123S which uses the same chipset but I could not find any problems.
Is ASPI or Nero installed?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by packetloss
A question to ErikDeppe:

It seems that you used the Aopen 1648/AAP DVD-ROM (1.07 firmware version) for this 'demonstration of colours'. I have the same drive (which is absolutely fantastic I might add, highly recommended), and use it with your great tool often. The only problem I have is that the speed setting in the disc quality test doesn't seem to work properly; the drive always scans the media at full speed. I'd like to reduce the speed for scanning (for obvious reasons), but it simply doesn't work.

Thank you for your great tool.

There's indeed a problem with the speed settings with this drive but normally this can be fixed soon.

ps. I agree that this is a great drive

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Quote:
Originally Posted by chthomson
Hi
I am new at this disc testing. I backup up Master and Commander yesterday with a BenQ 822A with firmware B3IC. I used a 4x Ritek R02 +R disc. It burned at 8x. I think the scan is good but I am not sure. Any advise would be appreciated.
Thanks

That's a pretty good scan.

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Notice the PO Failures (they should be 0), high jitter (should stay below 12%) and high number of PI Errors.
This was a 4x DVD+R which was burned at 8x. The scan clearly shows that it should have been burned at 4x.
The first part of the disc which was burned at 6x is good though.
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Originally Posted by Kenshin
I burned a YUDEN000T02 disc with LG GSA-4082B A208 firmware at 4x.

Ricoh MP5240A with 1.05 firmware reported more than 160 PI errors max while Lite-On SOHW-812S with 832S VS0B firmware reported 13 PI errors max for the same area of the disc. About 1.3GB, and I got 7,200 PI errors and 2.7x average. Ricoh set to 7x and Lite-On set to 4x. Max 2 PIF errors.

PI/PO checking with Ricoh drives is limited but according to my tests they're pretty accurate.
I've noticed a few times that scans from LiteOn DVD burners don't agree very well with other drives.
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The same disc was scanned with four drives (including the BenQ mentioned in my previous message) who are using a different chipset (Ricoh, ALI, Philips and Mediatek).
They all agree more or less (problems starting at the position where the burn speed switched to 8x) except the LiteOn.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C0deKing
Does this include the 832S speed problem? I know the firmware has an issue but KProbe is not affected by it.

Also can the PIF graph in auto range mode start with a scale of 4. As this is the accepted maximum PIF for ECC 8/1 it might as well show full resolution for burns with PIFs under this level.

And can the disc quality test options be retains between launches of the test dialog or program execution.

Thanks for the great tool.
C0deKing

Thanks for the suggestions.

I've made a workaround for the speed issue with the 832S drive. Speed settings for this drive are now hardcoded and not detected anymore.
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Actually, they all agree that it's a crappy disc. I suspect that there is some difference in the scanning speeds too.

That's true
Although the 3 other drives (especially the BenQ) show that you may get good results if the disc is burned at a lower speed.
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Re: CDSpeed v3 Disc Quality Test

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A new version is out (3.30).
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Disc Quality Test:



Added color selection/themes.

Added support for Asus DVD-E616P2, CRW-5232AS and CRW-5232B

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Quote:
Originally Posted by totos
Hi! May I ask Eric (CDDVDSpeed creator) or anyone who knows why the Plextor PX-712A is not supported? I read that Plextor company does not cooperate...

Forgive me if I am wrong, but is this needed? I mean since the drive supports error reporting, isnt that possible for the software to communicate this data to the application?

What is the Plextor cooperation needed for? Is there any permission needed by them?

I hope I see this superb utility for Plextor as well

Thanks for the comments
To add support for Plextor drives (or other drives) permission is needed.
But unfortunately Plextor prefers to have the PI/PO testing function in PlexTools only.

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Any chance of adding support also for the Asus DVD-E616? Or is it not on the horizon?

Another question: is it likely that the NEC drives, e.g. 3500, will eventually be added to the list of supported drives?

Thanks for a great program!

I will ask Asus if the old version of the DVD-E616 is supported.

As for NEC, well they said they don't have any plans to add support for PI/PO testing but who knows

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Quote:
Originally Posted by totos
Thanks Eric for your reply

I now understand... You know, I thought that no permission was needed...

E.g. Ahead should ask all the drive manufacturers to agree that the Nero will support writing for their drives? If yes this is crazy...

I thought that since the drive supports error reporting, and the customer pays for it not Plextor, anyone could write a software for passing the drive info to the PC display... What is illegal about this, since they offer the error reporting anyway?

And something else...Is the Pioneer DVR-108 supported?

Regards

Each manufacturer uses its own vendor-specific (= undocumented, Top Secret ) command to return PI/PIF.
So to get the support from a manufacturer they have to give the technical docs as well as the permission to use this command.
I don't know if it would be illegal to use the command if it was retrieved from a different source but it's always a good idea to keep good relations with the drive makers

For all other functions no support/permission is needed because standard commands are used.

Pioneer drives are not yet supported.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by totos
Thank you very much Eric!

I would like to ask you how the *PIE, POE, AND POF* parameters of PlexTools are compared to your CDDVDSpeed...I mean mean which correspond to which...


PIE = PI Errors
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CD-DVD Speed doesn't report PO Errors but PI Failures.
The other two parameters should be comparable with PlexTools.


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Any chance of adding support also for the Asus DVD-E616? Or is it not on the horizon?


I've asked Asus but unfortuntaly older drives do not support this function.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by professor_nova
I'm back after 3 weeks, so here is the original data regarding the strange problem:

LG GCE-8320B (firm 1.04)

Disk Quality Test, the drive just spins-up, and then does nothing. The program does not freeze. I can stop the test.

- tests -

Disk Quality Test (3.16, 3.21 and 3.30)

Audio-CD (Pressed) - Works
Audio-CD (Recorded) - Don't work

Data CD (Pressed) - Works
Data CD (Recorded)(CD-R) - Don't work
Data CD (Recorded)(CD-RW) - Don't work

And the answer to your question:

There is no difference with or without ASPI layer. The problem remains. I have tested the drive in two diferent computers (both AMD and with Nero).

Do you have an nForce2 motherboard? There are some issues with nForce IDE drivers.

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Quote:
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@Erik, does BenQ plan to ever add support for higher speed scanning and PIF reporting for the 800/822A ?



Yes

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There are a few issues but normally they should be fixed soon.
Available scanning speeds are 4x, 6x and 8x (all CAV).

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Does anybody know what is the meaning of "Glitches removed" at the very
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Let's say that the PI/PIF are very good but I have 3 "glitches removed", is this a good
burn?

Thanks

Glitches are small bugs from the chipset or firmware which could mess up the end result.
Nothing to worry about
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DerDembo
Hi Erik,

wow the scanning looks incredible os far

If you find a minute would you mind commenting on the weired scan results I get when using a Benq822A+ in an external enclosure (c.f. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=102402 ). I know it is probably not your but the ATA-Firewire chips (Oxford911) fault, however, if there is any chance that the problem might be fixed somehow I would be glad in helping you out (creat dumps of acctual data transmitted etc.).

Cheers,
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I'm not sure what could cause this problem but I will check it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KillMe
Wow. Thanx ErikDeppe! That really sounds cool!
Thanx for the screenshot as well.

What was the point behind the low scanningspeed until now: Firmwarelimitation? Lack of speedup-command? Qualityproblems while highspeedscanning? Or is it a hack (meaning that you do not scan all sectors but only a few)?

Didn't You state earlier in this thread that Benq told you PO-Scanning is not implemented in firmware? Now it looks a little bit like it was implemented.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to blame anyone. It's a great burner. And yours is a great program and it was the first to support pipo-scanning with the Benq at all.

I'm just curious....??

BTW: The scan shown in the screenshot looks not so perfect. High Jitter and PI of 60 at some places. Are You sure drive and disc are ok? Burned 8x right?!

There are several reasons why the current method is slow:
- scan is done at 4x CAV, although this seems to be fixed in the latest firmware version. But it doesn't make much difference.
- PI errors and Jitter cannot be measured in a single pass so everything has to be scanned twice
- the performance when testing with small scanning intervals is low

But these issues are all fixed with the new method.
The results from the screenshot I posted are pretty good. The jitter display is something I'll have to look at because it's much higher than with the old method.

With the old method PI failures were not reported but with the new method all kinds of errors can be reported (including PO errors and PO failures).
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Originally Posted by Halcyon
I read from the support page that CD-DVD Speed supports Toshiba SD-M1902.

Is this the same as support for Toshiba SD-M1912?

http://tinyurl.com/5v76b

I can't find Toshiba SD-M1902 from Toshiba's site.

Just want to be sure, before I order SD-M1912

Sorry, that was a typo. It's the SD-M1912. The SD-M1902 doesn't exist
It's supported because it uses the Mediatek chipset.
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@Erik can you add to your sig. a link to your cdspeed site?

Done
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muchin
Out of curiosity, most recently I used Plextor Premium to scan C1/C2 errors with CD Speed 3.30 as well as PlexTools and got some surprising results. Although CD Speed supports C2 scanning (but not C1), the numbers obtained for three discs are 5-20 times those of CU (E32) errors using PlexTools. Furthermore, the total CU errors returned after performing digital audio extraction with error reporting by PlexTools are identical, or nearly so, to the C2 totals given by CD Speed. Presumably the results are due to different ways in handling the same raw data, and the C2 in CD Speed for Plextor drive represents E32 , thus corresponds to CU in C1/C2 test of PlexTools , though in different unit of measurement. In its C1/C2 test PlexTools transforms the raw data so as to be compatible with BLER, i. e. in unit of frame/second. CD Speed plots the error rates returned by the chipset as they are, so the unit is byte/second. Am I right? It would be nice to count C1 error rates also in two different ways by the same drive, provided that ErikDeppe will enable support for C1 scanning by Plextor Premium in the near future.

If a drive is not listed here then Nero CD-DVD Speed uses a standard command to get C2 error information. This command returns the errors in bytes/second.
For Plextor drives (not listed) the C2 errors reported by Nero CD-DVD Speed are indeed the same as the CU errors from PlexTools. Both are reported in bytes/second.

Nero CD-DVD Speed shows the errors as they are returned by the drive.
C1/C2 errors are usually returned in frames/second.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halcyon
Another thing to notice is that the Toshiba SD-M1802 does not report PIF at all for dvd scans (that is, it cannot report them, even if they exist).

For CD scans it does report C2, but I'm not sure the results are useful (maximum 220 c2 on a disc that is readable).

Also, it reports jitter for and speed for cd scans that are totally whacked (see attachment): speed jumps from 1x to 99x and jitter is reportedly at 0,3%.

I don't think this drive can report PIFs but I will check these issues asap.

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Erik,

can you quickly summarize which chipsets are currently supported?

- Mediatek (LiteOn, Toshiba, etc)
- ALI (AOpen
- Philips (Philips, BenQ, NuTech)

Are there others?

- VIA (Toshiba SD-M1802)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muchin

Would you comment on some related questions? Does the error test under advanced DAE quality test also use MMC command? Is it possible to choose different speeds for this test? When I got very different profiles by this test and the disc quality test for the test CD disc created by Nero CD-DVD Speed using the same drive, what does it mean?

This wonderful unique program allows many drives to perform many tests. Bravo

The Advanced DAE Error test indeed uses the standard MMC command.

The speed is not changed for this test so you can use Nero DriveSpeed to set the speed first.

Normally the results from the Advanced DAE Error test should compare well with the Disc Quality test. Do you have some screenshots which can show the difference?
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Erik,

I hear in your next update that you will be able to change the 1x scan speed on the quality test with BenQ drives to 4x and 8x and it will report PIF errors with current firmwares. Is this true?

Yes, this is true
A new firmware upgrade may not be needed after all.
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The test works fine for single layer DVDs but testing dual layer DVDs and CDs is not fully working yet.
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Originally Posted by tomlevels
Is it just me, or is that quite a bad scan for a ricoh-disc? What speed and burner did you use?

That's a bad scan indeed
I burned it at 8x but I can't remember which burner I used.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muchin
Among three drives tested, two behaved in normal ways, only a Liteon 40X writer did not. Please see the attachments for the screenshots.

The total C2 errors at 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, and 40X are 0 or 1. The test disc is created by the same drive on a TDK CD-RW.

After asking the questions, I have repeated the tests a few times. The Disc Quality Test at each speed still gave quite reproducible results. Although the reproducibility for the Advanced DAE Error Test became lower, the C2 patterns for the two tests were never the same. I wonder whether this phenomenon is a sign of a failing drive. If so, I am sorry for having wasted your time.

I had tried Drive Speed before, but it could not effectively control the speed in Advanced DAE Error Test by the Liteon writer. The time spent varied from 5 to 50 min. when max speed was chosen. Will you be interested in adding speed selection feature to this test?

I ran some tests but everything look ok here.
Perhaps you can try the latest firmware?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DerDembo
Sorry for my delayed answer Erik, if I can be of any help to you (supplying dumps etc.) please contact me - for a screenshot, take a look at: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=102402 I think it might be that the returned values get garbled by the Firewire-IDE Bridge (rotating bytes maybe?) but I don't know how to check for it...

TIA for looking into it.

I tried to test it but unfortunately the BenQ drive doesn't work with my Firewire-IDE bridge.

But normally a new version of Nero CD-DVD Speed should be released later today so maybe you can test this version first?
This version uses a different scanning method for 8x BenQ recorders.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by rfjr23
Can someone tell me what this means. Itried using kprobe but was informed that it is for lite on drives..I am using btc drives The first one is a 16X dvd-rom BDV316E ver.0052 and the second is ide1004 ver.0151

the first one is of the original on the dvd rom

the second one is the backup on RICHJPN01 and in the 1004 ver. 0151

the third one is the backup on RICHJPN01 and in the BDV316E ver. 0052

I have no clue on to what any of this means, but i am wanting to learn how to tell weather i am making quality backups.(I still want it to work in a year from now)Thanks for any help

The transfer rate graphs are looking good.
But the Disc Quality test will give you a more detailed view of the quality (Extra -> Disc Quality).

btw. the first screenshot shows that your drive is not using Ultra DMA which is needed to read at >10x.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halcyon
Erik,

now that Optorite (Sanyo) has dumped the support and sales for UM Doctor Pro II, would it be

possible to get Optorite drives supported in CD speed?

For reference: UM Doctor Pro II

http://www.digital-sanyo.com/BURN-Proof/store/

Optorite DD0401/DD0405 and DD1203/DD1025 chipset (Sanyo LC897490 and Sanyo LC897491

respectively):

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Rev...?ArticleId=8536
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Rev...?ArticleId=9905

Looks like the upcoming Optorite (DD1603) might also be based on the Sanyo chipset.

At least UM Doctor Pro can show both C1/C2 and PI/PIF on those Optorite burners.

It would be a very welcome addition, if you feel it's worth the effort and possible to do.

Thanks again for continuing the development of CD Dvd Speed!

I will ask


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The new version is being tested and normally it should be released later today.
That's the good news
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8x burners at the moment.
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needed.

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The colored bars on the background are an indication of the acceptable number of errors. For

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MediumRare
Hi Erik,
Thank you for your continued work on this tool. I'm looking forward to the new version!

I like the idea of marking an "in the green" area for PIF-counts as long as you don't change

the values actually reported. From your samples, this seems to be for PIF only (the colour

is hard to distinguish on my monitor- I'll have to try the new version myself. )

Storing "Create Data Disc" information on the disc itself is also a super idea, like your

sample shows! Thank you!

With the increasing information you're making available, I'd like to repeat halcyon's

request for labels on the axes (I'm a physicist and would like to see units on everything

too). If there is a problem finding room for this information, adding a colour-code to the

axes would do the trick.

What does the RH scale on the lower plots for the LiteOn and Asus drive refer to? (It's

missing on the AOpen plot.)

G

Thanks for the comments

The test only shows the colored bars for PIFs and also the quality score only considers

PIFs. According to my tests it's almost impossible to use the PI errors for calibration

because the differences are too high.

I've increased the brigtness of the colored bars a bit so they should be more visible

The RH scale is used for jitter (in %) but it should not appear if the drive can't report

jitter. I have fixed this.

I will try to add the labels to the axes with the next version.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by packetloss
Erik, those new features (especially the "comparable graphs and quality scores" feature)

look very exciting, really looking forward to the next version.

The Aopen 1648/AAP might become interesting for quality testing after all. If we can compare

quality scores in a easy and convenient way, CD-DVD Speed might become the standard of

quality testing for us normal consumers, since testing would not be limited to a certain

brand of drives.

The comparable graphs and scores may also convince certain manufacturers to give their

support for the Disc Quality test.
Some of them are worried that people will think the scanning function of their drives is not

accurate because it shows more errors than LiteOn scans.
I hope this version can convince them to support PI/PO testing


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Hi...

@Erik:
I use a Benq DW800 for scanning my dvds (with nero cd-dvd speed 3.30) burned with the benq or the LG GSA-4120. I've installed the latest firmware in both drives and i've the problem that i get a error "FOCUS SERVO FAILURE (040902)" if i scan a burned DVD+R DL. The error occurs around the layer change (progress is 49%).


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But i can do a speed test, a surface scan with nero cd-dvd speed and copy all files from DVD to hd without error from that DVD+R DL with the benq, the LG and my Liteon DVD-Reader. A error scan with the Liteon reader works great ("as all Liteon reader scans"... ) and i get no FOCUS error.

Scanning a single layer works perfectly with the benq.

Do you've had that problem with a DW822?

Kind regards,

Gerd

This should not be a problem with the new version anymore
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The new version (3.40) is out.
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Create Data Disc: Test results can be recorded on the disc.

Disc Quality Test:



Added enhanced scanning capabilities for BenQ 8x DVD recorders.

Added advanced jitter test for AOpen Combo drives and CD-RW recorders.

Added colored bars on the background to show the acceptable level of errors.

Improved scoring system.



Many small improvements and bug fixes

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Originally Posted by MrWGT
Hi...

yes, it's not an issue anymore... I'm currently scanning my media and currently the scan is at 55%.

Speed: The speed is increased to a max. of 3.7 (start about 1.4) here which is good, but you've got a max of 8 with the same drive? Any clues?

Kind regards,

Gerd

PS: As you can see in my picture of the FOCUS error the german word "Durchschnitt" is always missing the last "t".

Thanks for letting me know. I will fix this in the next version.

If you set the speed to 8x (not maximum) then you should be able to scan at 8x.

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Erik, I don't know what you did but I can scn now using my BenQ DW822 in an Oxford enclosure - yeeeesssss It's amazing how you see the result of different burners, different media etc.... A whole new world

I was this close to buying an Aopen1648 to replace my Pioneer 106s (might still do it though - if there is any way to donate whatever I can afford I gladly will. Keep up the good work - I just hope that Ahead let's you keep on playing with CDSpeed - it is an incredible tool!

That's good to hear
No need for a donation. Nero CD-DVD Speed is real freeware

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I can confirm the same with CDSpeed 3.30 and 3.40:
LG GCE-8320B (v1.04), the version with 2MB of buffer, only scans pressed discs.

With CDRs, CDSpeed spins the drive, and then it does nothing.

I don't have any nForce mobo, it has an intel BX chipset.

Anyway, great program.

I will try to find an LG GCE-8320B to run some tests.
It's a strange problem.


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Originally Posted by Halcyon
Thanks for the update! I can report a slight speed increase when scanning on DW1620 using 8x setting (up to 1.6x now on my comp).



I know there aren't any units on the graphs yet, but I don't think 48 723 PIF is possible in any reasonable scanning interval.

For PIF, I think the maximum for 32 ECC blocks summed is 208 (PI rows / ECC block) x 32 (ECC blocks) = 6 656 erroneus PI rows (=PIF).

POE could be up to that high. Based on how calculated and implemented, I think POE could be as high as 6656 * 167 = 1 111 5552 for each 32 ECC block summed window (if I understand the DVD spec right).

I think all of this would make more sense to my little brain, if common units were labelled and graphed on the charts (please, pretty please ).

I know the point is not to get absolute numbers. However, when graphing known unit measures we could at least check if the drives are actually reporting figures that are even theoretically possible, or if they are just misbehaving and reporting 'whatever'.

cheers,
halcyon

I've checked it and the second graph indeed shows PO errors instead of PI failures.
Also the unit of measurement is in bytes and not columns.
There are a lot of bytes in 64 ECC blocks

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Originally Posted by asdf
Hi Erik,

I like the comparable graphs and comparable quality scores on the V3.40, it's a nice feature with color in the back ground . However, when you have time, can you take look at this?

Both picture scan the same disc on the same day, it think the disc has booktype of DVD-ROM on DVD-R so the word PRINCO didn't show up on LiteOn, likely disc/drive combo issue. The disc is burned with LiteOn with strategy swap.

I know that you set BTC's green background at 4 PIF rating, yellow at 10(?), and 10+ is red, same as what I saw for my LiteOn. However, you will notice that BTC is showing much much higher values in both PI and PIF , eventhough both drive have the same MTK chip.

If possible, could you ask BTC (or if you already) what the ratio suppose to be for the BTC drives in order to get comparable quality and graph? Also you notice the background is not showing red on BTC's picture, I think the red background stop showing from certain PIF value, but I don't know the exact PIF where the red background stopped showing up.

Thank you for your work. This is a really useful free program.

I think the BTC drives use a scanning interval of 42 ECC blocks (LiteOn drives use an interval of 1 ECC block) which would explain the big difference.
I will check with BTC.

I will also try to find out what's going on with the red background.

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As a frugal person, I wanted to try the new data disc option with a rewritable and ran into a problem. CDSpeed apparently detects the disc as a DVD with capacity 0 ( ) and almost all options are grayed out:
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I'm running a LiteOn SOHW-1213S@1633S (BS0H) and have deactivated auto-bitsetting in case this makes a difference. Both KProbe2 and Nero (6.3.1.15) show disc and book type as DVD+RW. This is independent of doing a prior full or quick erase.

As far as I can tell, this behaviour was already present in v3.30 but not in v.3.10.

Any suggestions?

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Can you please tell me if you erased the disc and which program you used for that?
I've seen this behaviour with DVD+RW discs which were erased with InCD.
If you erase the disc with Nero CD-DVD Speed (Extra->Erase Disc) then it should work fine.
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Originally Posted by starless
Hi, Erik

I had the same problem with PioData DVD+R DL,too.


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I had test it two times and get the same error message at the same point.And also the disc's surface scan and speed test look good.

But what is interesting and strange, I had successfully run over the test with MKM DVD+R DL before.

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I don't think I've seen this error before but everything should work fine with version 3.40 because it uses a completely different scanning method for BenQ drives.
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Originally Posted by Jamos
I am getting this error randomly on certain disks scanning with Benq 822A..this is AML002 media it randomly pops up usually after a few minutes. using CDSpeed 3.40

I'm not sure what could cause this problem but I will check it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash56
>ErikDeppe
I was eager to try out the new 3.40 on my BenQ DW1620 but came across a known bug in the software that prevented me from accessing the drive.
I have a large tower with 12 optical DVD drives in it and CD/DVD speed will only report 9 drives maximum so the BenQ drive and 2 others do not appear in the drop down list. All these drives are on PCI IDE controllers except for the BenQ & a Liteon DVD-ROM which are connected to the internal IDE and they all function correctly with my burning softwares as well as DVDInfoPro.
A workaround for this is for me to disable one of my controllers and reboot the system so I have only 8 drives present & then the CD/DVD Speed will then see the missing drives. As you can imagine this is inconvenient because I then need a reboot to re-enable the missing drives and the drive letters have changed from the ones I had originally assigned them together with their scsi ID which usually means a regedit to set them back to how I like them
Please can you look into this and fix the software so that it will recognise more than 9 optical drives in the one PC.
NB. This problem has not just developed with the latest version it was apparent with earlier versions but this time I decided to report it to you.

Thanks for letting me know.
Nero CD-DVD Speed supports up to 128 drives.
However it only checks the first 8 controllers. Do you have more than 8 controllers?

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You certainly have your hands full, Erik! So many drives, so many phantom problems, requests, etc.

If there's anything us users can do, except keep on asking for features and testing for drive related bugs, please don't hesitate to ask.

Your software is such a useful tool that I'd like to help in any way I can.

Thanks for the comments
Feedback from you and others has been very valuable


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