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K8(cpu整合北橋晶片)真的只要一顆南僑晶片組-棒

http://www.jc-news.com/index.cgi
First off, there is a big of a confirmation that the K8 family, or at least one entry in it, will have the northbridge integrated onto the cpu die. I suspect that only the memory controller and not the rest of the north bridge is integrated as such.
* A new FAB30 design center stocked with 200 engineers will apparently have the sole purpose of creating chipsets for AMD's future platforms
* The south bridge for the K8 reportedly is being developed at this design center. According to this, the south bridge will support USB 2.0, HyperTransport, 5.1 sound, and DSL.
If you can think back to the end of last month, you may recall that I was informed that "AMD two weeks ago completed layout on an unannounced future south bridge design". As stated back then, the south bridge is allegedly very transistor heavy. This would gel perfectly with reports of only the memory controller being schtunked onto the K8 chip, as it would mean that all the excess features normally seen in the north bridge would have to appear in this AMD "south bridge".
* The post suggests that the south bridge is not too far forward in terms of development and advancement, but this makes sense unless you believe the silly rumours of the Hammers appearing early.
* 130nm test circuits are being run in Dresden. Hints here are that they are not progressing as optimally as would be hoped.
* And a little bit of info on the Athlons in Dresden (don't know whether it's talking about Thunderbirds or Palominos): 210 dice can fit on a 200mm diameter wafer, and yield (though this could mean anything from initial fab yield to after-packaging yield) is just above 70%.
     
      
舊 2001-09-19, 09:04 AM #1
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有好就有壞...
1.北橋內建,所以傳輸效能會好上許多
2.成本增加,cpu的單價會較貴;相對的主機板會便宜許多
3.晶片組廠商沒賺頭
4.電晶體的數量大幅增加,耗功率增加,熱度相對增加,amd必須加入熱降速機能,避免k7過熱燒毀的缺點繼續發生
5.die的面積增加,必須用更先進的製程以縮小面積、降低耗電、時脈提昇
6.cpu的耗電流必然上升許多,主機板與power必須設計更完善以提供足夠的電流
 
舊 2001-09-19, 04:43 PM #2
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3.晶片組廠商沒賺頭
^^^^^^^^^^^6

哈哈...那via一定很討厭k8

不過話說回來
amd會不會是討厭via的bug,所以甘脆把北橋內建進去了?
舊 2001-09-20, 04:35 AM #3
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3.晶片組廠商沒賺頭
^^^^^^^^^^^6

哈哈...那via一定很討厭k8

不過話說回來
amd會不會是討厭via的bug,所以甘脆把北橋內建進去了?


如果我是AMD就會如此作...Via真是夠了...啥時才能振作點?要不是Athlon本身夠嗆,Via哪來的搞頭???
舊 2001-09-20, 08:29 AM #4
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amd會不會是討厭via的bug,所以甘脆把北橋內建進去了

討不討厭我不曉得
但是這樣做的話可以改善產能不足的問題吧
而且,晶片組收回來自己做應該是好事
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