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當機...是那邊的問題?

(想不出好標題可用,請各位見諒

話說到我之前二手的FIC KT-748無法開機,送修整整十四天後修好了,回到家裡,安裝xp正常,爽快的用了半小時後,卻開始不斷當機。

各式各樣的當法,斷電、重開、藍畫面;在bios、開機沒進windows前、掃瞄磁碟時、測記憶體也有時會當(跑super pi 32M通過,p95約半小時死,3DMark2003大約有兩成機會當);mentest86有時ok有時錯誤,RST passed。

後來把記憶體(金士頓)拿去聯強快修中心,等了半小時,工程師說沒問題。我只好去買了片MSI KT6V回去交叉測試。重灌上去之後,過了短時間的快樂期,又開始當當當。情況跟KT-748一樣。

今天火速買了一條二手的記憶體(品安)來應急(等記憶體降價...),我問能不能用mentest86測?他說「用了一年都沒事」。結果裝回去,mentest86測了兩次,一次錯誤上萬,一次是90多。RST測了一次通過、一次當機(還好賣家說七天包退)

現在換回KT-748,xp安裝當了一次,穩了半小時,現在又在當...(平均可說三分鐘當一次)

我能想到的當機原因:

1.記憶體。但是金士頓那條聯強測了半小時說正常。

2.CPU。duron 1.6改xp1900+ 配上CQ5+,溫度約53(電風扇吹)。IDE看不出來有崩壞。(CPU壞掉,可以進windows?)

3.主機板。兩個版子(一個二手使用快一年,一個新買)都一樣,難道是我手賤裝壞的?

不太可能的原因:

1.9800SE軟改PRO。有記憶體散熱貼片,沒重塗散熱膏。之前配C-550都一切正常,且換成ELSA GF2 MX400(沒風扇)還是一樣當。

2.偉訓 335W。兩個禮拜前新買。我把第二硬碟跟DVDROM拆掉,9800換成GF2也還是會當,所以應該不是瓦數不夠。

3.排線。把硬碟排線換了一條新的,沒用。

4.硬碟。快速掃瞄ok, SMART也顯示ok,我沒有深層掃瞄,因為我想反正會當...

不知各位有何見解?請幫忙,謝謝大家。

預計禮拜二要拿五月的吃飯錢去買條創見的記憶體跟duron 1.6 or XP2000+...再當,我就要封電腦了
     
      
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看起來應該是CPU有問題,或許原本這顆是L2有問題所以打成Duron的Athlon XP,一開啟256的L2,就造成問題了?
 
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老實說...您測的蠻徹底了吧??...
不過有點亂到不知道您到底是要留哪一樣下來用說~
其實...真的不缺錢的話...花點小錢去給電腦公司測不是很好嗎??
(朋友現在在維修部門做事...去看了只能說~怎樣交插測試的東西都有啊...真好)
查出來是哪的問題~再砸錢會比較好吧??...
而就您現在的情況~記憶體您不是去給人測過了??版子不是換過了?~
所以最有可能的是CPU吧~AND CPU有問題有時候還是可以進WINDOWS的說...
供您參考
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呵呵∼
你的硬體幾乎全面換新與測試∼
卻獨獨漏了那顆改xp的毒龍∼
或許這就是問題所在吧∼
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汗顏, 因為一直以為cpu有問題的話, 開機就會bb叫, 所以沒很重視cpu這問題

請店家做測試的話, 總覺得有點難把錢丟出去
不過我這樣子先砸錢再二手賣出, 比較起來也許檢測費會划算點...

繼之前三分鐘狂當後, 現在又穩跑了快兩小時, 真的是
明天先去買顆毒龍再試試

謝謝大家的不吝指教
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我只說明我的狀況,共您參考
CPU破損缺角不是很嚴重的話,還是可以開機的
只是會不定時出一些亂七八糟的狀況給妳
或者會狂當機

另外不知您測試時是裸機測試或有鎖在機殼裡測試
鎖在機殼測試的話,鎖MB的螺絲有沒加墊片
因為之前我碰到的狀況就是沒加墊片
而導致的開不了機跟當機
如果您有排除這種狀況的話
哪在您所列的配備與交叉測試下
比較有可能的還是CPU吧
祝您好運嚕
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小弟之前有一顆duron 1.3G 有缺角,還可以pass superpi32m
只是不定時會亂當,給您參考參考
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小弟昨天買了顆duron 1.8
裝上後跑RST, 沒問題
然後跑prime95, 到剛剛15小時passed

還有關於 原來的duron 1.6
發現配上KT748, 有時開機會顯示xp1900+, 但有時又顯示為duron 1600
大概真的是L2有問題了...不過建達的貼紙蓋在L2上, 我不太敢撕
但之前的賣家也正常的用了幾個月, 這樣似乎有點麻煩...
再聯絡他, 看看他怎麼說

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引述自電腦領域
Duron是死了Cache的壞貨

為什麼Die Size一樣但L2Cache的數目又相差那麼遠呢!?真相是Duron其實是XP死了部份L2 Cache的壞貨,只是這些CPU其實運作正常,而棄掉又十分浪費,故AMD會刪去死掉的Cache部份作低價型號推出,情況就如Intel的Pentium 4與Celeron的關係一樣。

很多時XP死掉的L2 Cache可能只有數KB,為什麼要把L2 Cache減到64KB那麼少呢!?最大的原因是如果只減至128KB的話,會令XP與Duron的效能分別並不明顯,真接影響XP的銷情,故此Duron必須在效能上與XP有一定程度的距離,情況同樣發生於Intel Celeron身上。


所以.別亂改
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