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josfight 2004-10-20 05:14 PM

三问A64 4000+竟和FX53究竟有什么不同?
 
三问A64 4000+竟和FX53究竟有什么不同?

http://www.pcpop.com/market/04/10/49259/5.shtml

那么,现在看来,这两款处理器还是存在着不同的地方的,它们之间的区别在于:

一,产品名称和型号不同。(这不废话么?不要拿鞋丢我。..啊,谁的乔13!)

二,Athlon64 FX53能够自由调节倍频;而Athlon64 4000+仅能降低倍频。

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AMD64 4000+美金定價比FX53還高,變相抬價,無愧是Intel化之後的AMD.

bureia 2004-10-20 11:13 PM

CPU內"二級緩存"不同 :D
FX: 1MB
一般: 512K

clivelai 2004-10-20 11:31 PM

引用:
作者josfight

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AMD64 4000+美金定價比FX53還高,變相抬價,無愧是Intel化之後的AMD.

先幫你翻成繁體
因為看了很痛苦... :jolin:
之後FX53就停產
變成推FX55
FX55定價又比4000+高
所以定位沒差
至於Intel化...
效能就是比較好
所以... :jolin:

Haker 2004-10-20 11:41 PM

引用:
作者bureia
CPU內"二級緩存"不同 :D
FX: 1MB
一般: 512K


4000+也是1M

天昏地暗 2004-10-21 12:57 AM

拜託,可以無理論佐證,也沒說出CPU 是幾bit如何定義,單單簡單說"我也不認為K8 是64 bit CPU"的josfight,他的topic讓他沉下去吧!! :jolin:
PS:"AMD64 4000+美金定價比FX53還高,變相抬價,無愧是Intel化之後的AMD."這種Intel 萬萬歲的言論,實在是......... :jolin:

yonoko 2004-10-21 01:12 AM

繁體中文版 :laugh:

三問A64 4000+竟和FX53究竟有什麼不同?

http://www.pcpop.com/market/04/10/49259/5.shtml

那麼,現在看來,這兩款處理器還是存在著不同的地方的,它們之間的區別在於:

一,產品名稱和型號不同。(這不廢話麼?不要拿鞋丟我。..啊,誰的喬13!)

二,Athlon64 FX53能夠自由調節倍頻;而Athlon64 4000+僅能降低倍頻。

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AMD64 4000+美金定價比FX53還高,變相抬價,無愧是Intel化之後的AMD.

DanFang 2004-10-21 07:16 AM

引用:
作者bureia
CPU內"二級緩存"不同 :D
FX: 1MB
一般: 512K


4000+也是1MB L2. 唯一的差別只勝下不能調倍頻.
Anandtech的評論也對4000+的定位頗有微詞. 他認為3800+反倒是較好的選擇.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipset...spx?i=2249&p=15
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipset...spx?i=2249&p=17
Final Words
As we've shown just in the final pages of this review, AMD's launch of the Athlon 64 4000+ doesn't mean all that much other than bragging rights. The justification of the rating is questionable, as is the release of the processor, since it is little more than a rebadged FX-53 with some of its overclocking appeal removed. The fact that Intel has pulled the launch of the Pentium 4 4GHz while AMD has come to market with a 2.4GHz Athlon 64 4000+ doesn't mean much, but there is little to complain about since AMD has many more attractive Athlon 64 options.

What the cancelation of Intel's 4GHz Pentium 4 does say however is that Prescott was a waste. Intel would have done a much better job of competing had 90nm been simply a die shrink and done without the architectural "enhancements" of Prescott designed to ramp up clock speeds. Granted hindsight is 20-20 and we can't blame Intel for not having that knowledge of the future, but we can say that once again, it looks like AMD made the right bet, this time with reference to their 90nm strategy. We would strongly recommend any of AMD's 90nm parts thanks to their significantly lower power consumption, competitive price as well as their performance.


It is worth noting that after the Athlon 64 3500+, AMD doesn't really have many price-competitive options with Intel. The 3800+ and 4000+ compete in a price segment that even Intel's Pentium 4 560 won't touch, making Intel's flagship desktop processor cheaper than AMD's similar offering - a first if we've ever seen one. So although the Athlon 64 3800+ and 4000+ are very strong performers, you're definitely paying for them. Although it is worth noting that even the FX-55 is cheaper than Intel's Pentium 4 3.4EE.

The introduction of the FX-55 with strained silicon technology is an interesting and unexpected move from AMD, at least at this point. We knew they were planning an FX-55, but we had no idea it would include strained silicon support - the question of when we'll see strained silicon and higher clock speeds at 90nm does still remain.

With 2004 quickly coming to a close, we can't help but wonder if this will be the last year for the foreseeable future where we will have a processor speed war to talk about. With 2005 destined to be the year of multiple cores, and with dual core solutions from both AMD and Intel guaranteed to run at lower clock speeds than present day single core chips, are the great MHz and GHz races of years past on hiatus for a while?

What about software support for multi core processors? Although Intel has happily shipped over 50 million Hyper Threading enabled Pentium 4s in just over two years, the vast majority of desktop applications are still not multithreaded. Will the introduction of dual core CPUs be a clever way of weaning the populous off of fast CPUs so that lower clocked, slower overall, multi core CPUs can tide us over until performance actually improves? The prospects are interesting.

We expected Intel to launch Hyper Threading with killer applications and benchmarks that would truly show its necessity on the desktop, but we were rather surprised to see that the best we got two years ago were some scripts that simulated isolated situations. Our fears are that 2005 will hold a repeat of Intel's HT launch on the desktop; while no one is arguing that dual core won't have a future, we're wondering if it may come a bit too soon to actually do anything. Obviously only time will tell, but until then don't expect too many more speed bumps from either Intel or AMD. It seems like both camps are going to be increasing cache sizes and playing with other architectural tweaks in the near future before they can get dual core out the door.


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