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walkingdog 2010-02-27 12:14 AM

引用:
作者a9607
I、A兩社的「學費」不是白繳的…




:rolleyes:



嗯,學費自然要繳,
繳了多少及時間長短之別,
58系列初期良率亦沒多好,
直到TSMC的40NM有了突破才有一定進展,
AMD的GPU一路發展到5系列,
也到了成熟收割期,
不但效能出眾,2D省電,3D耗能亦不誇張,
值得拍手,足為遊戲娛樂卡模範,
反觀目前FERMI在功耗上似乎並不樂觀,
產品線亦難齊全,可能要到FERMI 2才有較好的舞台了~~


節錄文章部分,小翻一下
Now let's go a little deeper into the issues causing the delays. Initially NVIDIA ran into a can of worms with the A1 revision of GF100 (Fermi), yields have had to be incredible horrible as they very quickly shifted to revision (build) A2 of the ASIC. After revision A2 was out some time passed and TSMC reported that the majority of their 40nm issues had been solved. Good proof of that is that ATI is pushing out many DX11 class product in much diversity and reasonable volume. That means the wafer yields, though likely not very good, where okay enough. So there's something else going on as well next to yield issues. Either a bug slipped in or the thermal package is causing issues resulting in lower than anticipated clock frequencies and perhaps heat related issues.

A1修正版似乎有太多蟲,因此很快來到了A2,直到A2修正版出來,
已經過了一些時日,此時TSMC宣稱他們的40NM泰半問題已獲得解決,
ATI卡的生產量來到合理的程度。
由此可知NV面臨的問題,不光產能,亦有他因,
不是臭蟲就是thermal package造成時脈下降或者過熱相關問題。

----------------------------------------------------------
Back to reality. We found out (and verified), surprisingly enough, that the GPU is already at revision A3, that's the third revision of the GPU, the GF100 already has had three builds. So yes, something was wrong, very wrong alongside the initial yield issues. But we know that the products right now are in volume production, will it be many weeks before we see good availability ? Sure it will. Maybe April, or indeed May is where things will start to make a difference. Performance will be very good, however with the clocks I have seen (and only if they are final) I do believe they will not be brilliant though. NVIDIA has many trump cards though, they have an outstanding driver team which will drive performance upwards fast and soon.

我們驚訝發現GPU已來到A3,那是GF100第三次修正,
一路下來,除了產能,一定還有什麼問題持續伴隨困擾著,
但我們知道產品現在已開始量產,可能要好幾個禮拜貨源才會充足,
也許4月,或者5月,情況才會改變,
效能很不錯,但就我所看到的時脈(如果是最後官方時脈),
仍不夠讓人眼睛為之一亮,
NV有優秀的DRIVER TEAM,應該很快能將FERMI的效能上拉

walkingdog 2010-02-27 12:21 AM

嗯,學費自然要繳,
繳了多少及時間長短之別,
58系列初期良率亦沒多好,
直到TSMC的40NM有了突破才有一定進展,
AMD的GPU一路發展到5系列,
也到了成熟收割期,
不但效能出眾,2D省電,3D耗能亦不誇張,
值得拍手,足為遊戲娛樂卡模範,
反觀目前FERMI在功耗上似乎並不樂觀,
產品線亦難齊全,可能要到FERMI 2才有較好的舞台了~~


節錄文章部分,小翻一下
Now let's go a little deeper into the issues causing the delays. Initially NVIDIA ran into a can of worms with the A1 revision of GF100 (Fermi), yields have had to be incredible horrible as they very quickly shifted to revision (build) A2 of the ASIC. After revision A2 was out some time passed and TSMC reported that the majority of their 40nm issues had been solved. Good proof of that is that ATI is pushing out many DX11 class product in much diversity and reasonable volume. That means the wafer yields, though likely not very good, where okay enough. So there's something else going on as well next to yield issues. Either a bug slipped in or the thermal package is causing issues resulting in lower than anticipated clock frequencies and perhaps heat related issues.

A1修正版似乎有太多蟲,因此很快來到了A2,直到A2修正版出來,
已經過了一些時日,此時TSMC宣稱他們的40NM泰半問題已獲得解決,
ATI卡的生產量來到合理的程度。
由此可知NV面臨的問題,不光產能,亦有他因,
不是臭蟲就是thermal package造成時脈下降或者過熱相關問題。

----------------------------------------------------------
Back to reality. We found out (and verified), surprisingly enough, that the GPU is already at revision A3, that's the third revision of the GPU, the GF100 already has had three builds. So yes, something was wrong, very wrong alongside the initial yield issues. But we know that the products right now are in volume production, will it be many weeks before we see good availability ? Sure it will. Maybe April, or indeed May is where things will start to make a difference. Performance will be very good, however with the clocks I have seen (and only if they are final) I do believe they will not be brilliant though. NVIDIA has many trump cards though, they have an outstanding driver team which will drive performance upwards fast and soon.

我們驚訝發現GPU已來到A3,那是GF100第三次修正,
一路下來,除了產能,一定還有什麼問題持續伴隨困擾著,
但我們知道產品現在已開始量產,可能要好幾個禮拜貨源才會充足,
也許4月,或者5月,情況才會改變,
效能很不錯,但就我所看到的時脈(如果是最後官方時脈),
仍不夠讓人眼睛為之一亮,
NV有優秀的DRIVER TEAM,應該很快能將FERMI的效能上拉


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