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Originally posted by ssfan
為何無關??
管你是改哪部分,你只要在未經授權的情行下修改別人的程式並公開散佈
就是侵犯智慧財產權.如果無關,那nvidia憑什麼管??

那以後我要交作業直接拿別人的程式改改參數就好了,反正這也不構成什麼侵權
行為.

我就說了沒有修改程式了嘛，當然無關。

Nvidia又沒把程式給Omega的人看，怎麼修改程式？

別人的程式沒給你看，你怎麼改啊:confused:
用「念能力」查別人的記憶嗎:D

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Originally posted by robotcap
我就說了沒有修改程式了嘛，當然無關。

Nvidia又沒把程式給Omega的人看，怎麼修改程式？

別人的程式沒給你看，你怎麼改啊:confused:
用「念能力」查別人的記憶嗎:D

你就說了沒有修改程式??那這篇新聞是什麼??幻覺嗎??靈異嗎??

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在Driverheaven上有關於Nviia要求Omega停止開發Nvidia驅動的消息:

"在Nvidia對待Omega驅動的事情中有很多幕後故事，看起來Omega將被迫停止開發。這是因爲Nvidia強硬的態度，他們不希望任何人以任何方式改變他們的驅動代
碼。
Omega甚至已經在網站上去掉了Nvidia的Logo，也許還會有法律糾紛。至於未來是否會關閉這些網站，我們真的不知道。

我對於這個壞消息感到遺憾，但是不幸的是看起來Nvidia Omega驅動將不會開發了。"
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念能力??有必要嗎??你知道大陸有一款doom3 "like"遊戲嗎??找找相關的討論吧....

那我倒要反問你,如果Omega沒有涉及任何相關法律的問題(智慧財產權),
nvidia憑什麼要求Omega停止開發,請你告訴我,謝謝.

引用:

Originally posted by ssfan
你就說了沒有修改程式??那這篇新聞是什麼??幻覺嗎??靈異嗎??
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在Driverheaven上有關於Nviia要求Omega停止開發Nvidia驅動的消息:

"在Nvidia對待Omega驅動的事情中有很多幕後故事，看起來Omega將被迫停止開發。這是因爲Nvidia強硬的態度，他們不希望任何人以任何方式改變他們的驅動代
碼。
Omega甚至已經在網站上去掉了Nvidia的Logo，也許還會有法律糾紛。至於未來是否會關閉這些網站，我們真的不知道。

我對於這個壞消息感到遺憾，但是不幸的是看起來Nvidia Omega驅動將不會開發了。"
----

念能力??有必要嗎??你知道大陸有一款doom3 "like"遊戲嗎??找找相關的討論吧....

那我倒要反問你,如果Omega沒有涉及任何相關法律的問題(智慧財產權),
nvidia憑什麼要求Omega停止開發,請你告訴我,謝謝.

我先聲明我不是學法律的

1."Omega甚至已經在網站上去掉了Nvidia的Logo"
公司的Logo不是一般人想放就放的，Omega網站這樣應違反「商標法」這類的。

2.http://www.omegacorner.com/nvidia.htm
這一頁看清楚吧

"NOTE:

THESE DRIVER ARE "PRE-TWEAKED" DRIVERS, NO PROGRAMMING TOOK PLACE, THEY ARE JUST THE REGULAR NVIDIA DRIVER WITH ADDED TWEAKS AND FEATURES"
Omega這頁你看都沒看就能咬定他有修改程式？
咬定他違反智慧財產權？

Omega這樣做是違反nvidia driver的Lisense（軟體授權），
所以Omega明顯有可能觸法，但不是跟智慧財產權有直接關係。

我不想去查你說的doom3 clone是什麼，但我看過別的
http://www.planetblood.com/qblood/pix.shtml
只要是程式設計師，要寫出"很像"的遊戲當然沒問題。

引用:

Originally posted by robotcap
我先聲明我不是學法律的

1."Omega甚至已經在網站上去掉了Nvidia的Logo"
公司的Logo不是一般人想放就放的，Omega網站這樣應違反「商標法」這類的。

2.http://www.omegacorner.com/nvidia.htm
這一頁看清楚吧

"NOTE:

THESE DRIVER ARE "PRE-TWEAKED" DRIVERS, NO PROGRAMMING TOOK PLACE, THEY ARE JUST THE REGULAR NVIDIA DRIVER WITH ADDED TWEAKS AND FEATURES"
Omega這頁你看都沒看就能咬定他有修改程式？
咬定他違反智慧財產權？

Omega這樣做是違反nvidia driver的Lisense（軟體授權），
所以Omega明顯有可能觸法，但不是跟智慧財產權有直接關係。

我不想去查你說的doom3 clone是什麼，但我看過別的
http://www.planetblood.com/qblood/pix.shtml
只要是程式設計師，要寫出"很像"的遊戲當然沒問題。

我也不是學法律的,軟體授權的問題不就和智慧財產權有關?
我覺得你只是在玩文字遊戲而已.

他如何修改有沒修改程式,天知道,那你為何又一口咬定他一定沒改??
還是你有參與Omega driver開發??

我只知道,nvidia對於Omega修改雷管相當不滿,才會搞一堆名目去
搞Omega.

doom3的問題你不看是你的自由,但請不要什麼都不清處的情行下
就妄做斷語.從目前各方的討論看來,不是"很像"而已.

引用:

Originally posted by ssfan
我也不是學法律的,軟體授權的問題不就和智慧財產權有關?
我覺得你只是在玩文字遊戲而已.

他如何修改有沒修改程式,天知道,那你為何又一口咬定他一定沒改??
還是你有參與Omega driver開發??

我只知道,nvidia對於Omega修改雷管相當不滿,才會搞一堆名目去
搞Omega.

doom3的問題你不看是你的自由,但請不要什麼都不清處的情行下
就妄做斷語.從目前各方的討論看來,不是"很像"而已.

智慧財產權法就有規定了，當著作完成時即受保護。
何須軟體授權去保護其智慧財產權？

為何說我玩文字遊戲？我一開始也只說這和智慧財產權無關。

這個討論串已經有幾人"猜測"Omega driver沒改source。你不相信就算了。
但你若要指控Omega，請你拿出證據。
請你提出Omega有違反智慧財產權的證明，謝謝。

既然你只知道
"nvidia對於Omega修改雷管相當不滿,才會搞一堆名目去
搞Omega."
那你就是在什麼都不清處的情行下，就妄做斷語Omega違反智慧財產權。
（故意和你一樣打錯一個字）
你有比我清楚嗎？

所謂"各方的討論"裡一定有人持和我相同的看法吧。
還是你認為和我持相同看法的人說的不算是一種意見:o
眾口鑠金？

幾天前的新聞了…:(沒看的看一下吧:)
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Omega Driver News
by: OMEGADRIVE

NVIDIA DRIVER NEWS

(07/04/03)

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Well, as most of you have heard by now, I will not be releasing any more Omega drivers for nvidia cards. I know this must come as a surprise for many since there are a lot of people who trust my work and know that I'm doing all of this to help people. This is what REALLY happened:
I received an E-Mail from nvidia on June 17, it was from one of their attorneys, and he wanted to speak with me personally on the phone. The mail seemed friendly, but since it was coming from the nvidia law offices, I was worried of some kind of lawsuit because of my work. I called him after reading the mail, and he greeted me in a friendly tone, so my nerves started to calm down as soon as he told me that he only wanted to ask me a few questions. He started by telling me that many people filled complaints at nvidia because my drivers where "damaging" PCs and that people thought my drivers where approved by them since I had the nvidia logo on my page, so I corrected him and told him that I have a very clear statement on my page and in the driver installation that warned users about the drivers, that they where not supported by nvidia in any way and in case of problems contact me directly or through the forums. Then he told me that what I was doing was illegal, that I can't reverse engineer their drivers, because it was in the license agreement, so I explained to him that I never did that, that I use registry tweaks and dll swaps to make the drivers work like I wanted, then I used settings and patch scripts that are freely available in tweakers like RivaTuner, plus I add some others that are of my own creation, like the custom resolutions and DirectX optimizations, and at the end I just packed all that work in one simple installer and distributed it freely on the internet. After my explanation the only thing he had against me was the nvidia logo on my page, so he told me that I must remove it immediately because people would get confused an think that my drivers are official nvidia drivers, so I told him that there is no problem, the logo will go. He thanks me and asks my phone number because they will be contacting me again, so I gave him my number and thank him for his time.
After that I removed the logo and didn't heard from them again, I was gonna continue to make the drivers, but had my doubts...

Then, just a few days ago, I got an E-Mail from Zardon telling me that nvidia E-Mailed him about my drivers, and told him to REMOVE THE DRIVERS FROM DRIVERHEAVEN...
Now that does it! One thing is contacting me about my drivers and asking me to stop working on them, another is to force websites to take down the drivers which they host as a favor to the community.
Right now I'm really pissed of at nvidia for that thing alone, first the cheats, then buying Futuremark's statement and now, Take down 3rd party sets that help them by making their customers happy? What's wrong with them!? They think money can buy anything?
They are in the wrong track, they just want to cover all that bad press that they have been receiving lately by buying trust, but TRUST is not something they can buy, is something they must EARN! Gamers know that, they are no fools, maybe they can convince some old guy sitting in a president chair about it, showing him big numbers in synthetic benchmarks and showing their financial year gains, but they can't fool US:

WE are the ones that buy their cards.
WE are the ones that play the games.
WE are the ones that support each other in forums when something goes wrong.
WE are the ones that make their hardware reviews.
WE are the ones that they should listen.
WE are the ONLY ones, that can make a difference...

See ya! nvidia....

Sorry to all who supported my work, may GOD bless you all...

續…

ATI DRIVER NEWS

(07/04/03)

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On the other hand, there is ATI...

In the beginning, their drivers left much to be desired. When I bought my Radeon 8500 half of the things didn't worked and it was not working as advertised, that was a bad step for ATI. But unlike nvidia, they listened to their customers and with each driver release, things got better and better, fixing little by little all those holes, errors and memory leaks, to the point where the Catalyst drivers are right now, a point where they are almost bug free, at least is really difficult for me to spot bugs anymore...
Then ATI goes a step further and creates a BETA testing community where all member report bugs directly to the driver programmers and hardware engineers, a plus for "normal" tech support and one that encourages trust and the shows the company's dedication to their users.
I must personally thank Terry (Catalyst Maker) for his trust in my work, for noticing that I do this to help people, for his personal help and for letting me be part of the excellent Catalyst's Elite Beta Testing Group.

紅色字是我自己加上的
nv那段最後罵得真是……:rolleyes:

要看中文的話：
http://news.mydrivers.com/page/dir2...07,07,13602.htm
不過最後那一段精采的沒有翻出來:D :D :D ;)

引用:

Originally posted by robotcap
智慧財產權法就有規定了，當著作完成時即受保護。
何須軟體授權去保護其智慧財產權？

為何說我玩文字遊戲？我一開始也只說這和智慧財產權無關。

這個討論串已經有幾人"猜測"Omega driver沒改source。你不相信就算了。
但你若要指控Omega，請你拿出證據。
請你提出Omega有違反智慧財產權的證明，謝謝。

既然你只知道
"nvidia對於Omega修改雷管相當不滿,才會搞一堆名目去
搞Omega."
那你就是在什麼都不清處的情行下，就妄做斷語Omega違反智慧財產權。
（故意和你一樣打錯一個字）
你有比我清楚嗎？

所謂"各方的討論"裡一定有人持和我相同的看法吧。
還是你認為和我持相同看法的人說的不算是一種意見:o
眾口鑠金？

本來不大想回,好死不死又被推上來給我看到......

第一,請你口氣好一點,不用那麼亢奮.
第二,做人最好謙虛一點,以免遭報應,我實在不想說什麼難聽的話,我週遭
有許多的電腦好手,比我利害的比比皆是,但我從來就沒從他們口中聽
到像你這樣狂妄的話,就我所知,越利害的高手是越內斂的.
你那句"你有比我清楚嗎？",不好意思,在我聽來像是小學生鬥嘴的用詞.
第三,我不知道你為何要那麼激動,也許你是Omega的FANS,因為我懷疑
Omega而造成你異常憤怒,我只能表示抱歉,因為我說話就是直.
第四,說我故意打錯一個字??我是不明白,不過你第一篇寫著"沒關係",後來
又寫"沒直接關係",不知道算是什麼??
第五,原封不動還你一句話"你不相信就算了".

反正事實也沒人知道.

謝謝宗毛大大的文章解讀:)

非常有趣的事情是, 在同一時間, ATi新發表的Catalyst 3.5雖然相容性方面仍然問題多多, 卻在OpenGL Performance上有顯著的進展.
而且老實說, 相容性問題這種事情和廠商之間的親密度關係也很大....

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總之, 事情會開始慢慢有趣的. :)