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henrykuo@yale 2014-08-31 10:12 PM

2個附加檔案
這2張圖可能沒甚麼

第一次看過如此差IPS/AHVA類的品質

刻意省這種成本

就算是Lenovo X220/X230, Yoga 的IPS還比這塊還好

可能很多認為沒甚麼可是這塊面板灰階差,視角不是178/178

長時間閱讀只能說是很糟

oScARSh 2014-08-31 10:27 PM

有可能是背光問題

通常這種要超薄化, 背光都會出現一些問題


例如我在用的ipad air, 只要仰角超過30度, 亮度直接打對折50%
灰階也是大概12/255以下都看不到差別

apple的產品都這樣子了
要做薄的代價可能就是這樣

henrykuo@yale 2014-08-31 10:31 PM

引用:
作者oScARSh
有可能是背光問題

通常這種要超薄化, 背光都會出現一些問題


例如我在用的ipad air, 只要仰角超過30度, 亮度直接打對折50%
灰階也是大概12/255以下都看不到差別

apple的產品都這樣子了
要做薄的代價可能就是這樣


這不是背光問題是QC 標準在那裡

你去拿別人的X220 LP125WH2-SLA1 看看

這塊的顯示效果比這塊正確

X220 IPS 第二張圖的效果不會像這塊1/3後都是黑的

IPS本身就有要求Gamma 要很準

就算一塊25美金以下AHVA/IPS 面板都是一樣準

oScARSh 2014-08-31 10:33 PM

這裡是專業實驗室測試結果

http://www.displaymate.com/Surface_Pro_ShootOut_1.htm

大部份的成績都是很優秀的

他們給的評語是:
Surface Pro 3 Conclusions: An Excellent Top Tier Display…

Most Accurate Colors:

The Surface Pro 3 also has the most accurate on-screen colors of any Tablet or Smartphone display that we have ever measured for all standard consumer content (sRGB/Rec.709). That is another impressive achievement because everything in the display has to perform just right in order to produce very accurate colors – it is the single most challenging and important performance characteristic for a display. The Absolute Color Accuracy for the Surface Pro 3 is an Excellent 2.1 JNCD. See the Color Accuracy section and Color Accuracy Figures for measurements and details.

Color Accuracy is especially important for professional imaging applications when you must be sure of the on-screen image colors, when viewing photos from family and friends (because you often know exactly what they actually should look like), for some TV shows, movies, and sporting events with image content and colors that you are familiar with, and also for viewing online merchandise, so you have a very good idea of exactly what colors you are buying and are less likely to return them.

Comparisons with the Amazon Kindle Fire, Apple iPad Air, and Samsung Galaxy Tab S:
First of all, the Surface Pro 3 is considerably larger in screen area than the other Tablets: 87% larger than the Amazon Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, 47% larger than the Apple iPad Air, and 34% larger than the Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5. The other Tablets have somewhat higher Peak Brightness, but since the Surface Pro 3 is larger it is less likely to be opened outdoors in unshielded high ambient light environments like Smartphones and smaller Tablets, its somewhat lower (but still Very Good) Peak Brightness of 371 cd/m2 (nits) should not be an issue for most users and applications. With its adjustable kickstand, the angle of the display can be adjusted in the same way as a Laptop, an important viewing and working advantage.


色準似乎還比大多的平板來的準確

(除了你寫的可視角的確不佳)

會不會是你拿到的是不良品?

魔風痕 2014-08-31 10:35 PM

本來也想買這台....
看來考慮改玩asus padfone s好了

henrykuo@yale 2014-08-31 11:01 PM

1個附加檔案
引用:
作者oScARSh
這裡是專業實驗室測試結果

http://www.displaymate.com/Surface_Pro_ShootOut_1.htm

大部份的成績都是很優秀的

他們給的評語是:
Surface Pro 3 Conclusions: An Excellent Top Tier Display…

Most Accurate Colors:

The Surface Pro 3 also has the most accurate on-screen colors of any Tablet or Smartphone display that we have ever measured for all standard consumer content (sRGB/Rec.709). That is another impressive achievement because everything in the display has to perform just right in order to produce very accurate colors – it is the single most challenging and important performance characteristic for a display. The Absolute Color Accuracy for the Surface Pro 3 is an Excellent 2.1 JNCD. See the Color Accuracy section and Color Accur...


你確定這比其他平板來得準確???

另外一台平板比Surface Pro 便宜

oScARSh 2014-08-31 11:03 PM

我也沒辦法確定

所以只好拿DisplayMate的實驗室測試結果


可能你手上的器材比他們的好
可能你手上的SP3有問題
或是其它可能,
例如他們的作者 http://www.linkedin.com/in/raysoneira
也是DisplayMate的總裁, 被Microsoft收買

henrykuo@yale 2014-08-31 11:10 PM

引用:
作者oScARSh
我也沒辦法確定

所以只好拿DisplayMate的實驗室測試結果


可能你手上的器材比他們的好
可能你手上的SP3有問題
或是其它可能


我說的是一台賣價4萬以上的平板

SSD 256G 給你 TLC

面板確沒有要求一定的標準

而且這台的灰階就是非常差跟TN一樣

一般非TN/VA 低階面板都很容易達灰階的低標如 Max/Min範圍內

這台完全就是不行

henrykuo@yale 2014-08-31 11:15 PM

引用:
作者oScARSh
有可能是背光問題

通常這種要超薄化, 背光都會出現一些問題


例如我在用的ipad air, 只要仰角超過30度, 亮度直接打對折50%
灰階也是大概12/255以下都看不到差別

apple的產品都這樣子了
要做薄的代價可能就是這樣


iPad Air色溫不對

可是Grayscale 很棒

R/G/B 都重合在一塊

我所要的很基本

低空非過就好

Grayscale < 1.5

Max Chromatic Colors < 3 就好

oScARSh 2014-08-31 11:17 PM

是不是比TN差
可能是, 可能不是

畢竟每個人的標準不同, 說不定每台SP3都不太一樣, 就像ipad發生過陰陽臉一樣

不過displaymate還算是有公信力的一家實驗室
可能會比我說的還準, 或許不會比你測的還準
畢竟那麼有名的實驗室測出來高評分的螢幕, 您認為比TN爛
我覺得也許你有自己獨門的見解


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