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http://wccftech.com/warner-bros-kne...pc-mess-months/ “I will say that it’s pretty rich for WB to act like they had no idea the game was in such a horrible state,” said one quality assurance tester who worked on the game for years. “It’s been like this for months and all the problems we see now were the exact same, unchanged, almost a year ago.” “We reported literally thousands of bugs that were specific to the PC version relating to the frame rate. All sorts of fucked up texture issues. The Batmobile in particular has always fucked things up on PC.” 一位PC遊戲品管測試員在很久之前已經反應遊戲眾多的BUG問題，但一直沒處理，而且還如期發售... 個人推測可能和合作夥伴NV有關，高階卡+GAMEWORKS的BUNDLE案，很早之前即以此噱頭來行銷，這本無對 錯，但在NV與WARNER雙方皆知情的情況下硬推出遊戲，可能早知其後果，而順應時勢來處理，個人覺得對於 GAMER來說是不尊重的，也難怪有人說PC版的BATMAN根本是一場災難...
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你覺得NV會在知情的情況下，把這最佳化做得那麼爛的遊戲，當作高階卡行銷的主打? NV目前的主力是PC，PC版做得亂七八糟的對他們會有好處嗎 要提出陰謀論不是不行，但起碼要有一點可信度 |
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道理很簡單...
NV把GAMEWORKS加到遊戲中，一定會試玩其效果如何，以PC版BATMAN 那麼多明顯的問題，NV不可能在測試其GAMEWORKS時沒發覺，這是理之常 情。BATMAN在很久之前即已存在BUG，測試員也有提出多不勝數的BUG， 知而不改是設計小組的問題，但NV於銷售前不可能不知道。GAMEWORKS只 是NV和遊戲商的合作方式，以大作帶動硬體銷售也是NV的目標之一，玩家也 可能因為之前NV卡BUNDLE BATMAN或GAMEWORKS特效而做出其消費抉 擇，結果卻是BUG一堆的版本，在WARNER及NV皆事先知情的情況下... 遊戲發行權不在NV這邊，要說NV是受害者當然也可以，也許他們已提出延後發 售的要求但不被接受...
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這個不對喔 因為我之前就有發現 終級版本可能是NV官方才有 為什麼呢 看看已下展示特效影片 是不是很正常全都有 為什麼正式版卻是東缺西缺一樣少很多特效 這應該是WB那邊的問題了 [YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/S_h2h-7ypBU[/YOUTUBE] https://youtu.be/S_h2h-7ypBU |
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2015-07-02, 03:47 PM
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也許有另外一個用來糊弄NV的版本?
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2015-07-02, 06:38 PM
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NV應該是知情的，GAMEWORKS的遊戲NV會派技術人員去協助，還要測試
並協助優化，實在是不可能不知道BUG一堆。既然和商業策略有關，自然有不 能講的秘密與不能說的無奈，也許在最後關頭NV被WARNER擺了一道... 另有人說和DENUVO有關，像LORDS OF THE FALLEN一樣，不過因為BUG 問題很早就有，如果DENUVO是近期才植入的，那就有時間點的誤差，前提是 測試員的爆料屬實...
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之前的物理特效我覺得都做得很好阿
像我1代拿7770來跑老實說就是少了那種味道 既然是nv的招牌搞爛了nv一定有責任 只是個人傾向是這部本來就偏主機多 PC的話因為是綁NV 但遊戲機的話應該是偏AMD 也許是從遊戲機那邊直接過來對nv產生衝擊吧 |
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2015-07-02, 08:03 PM
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我覺得比較可能是NV一開始派人和WB一起弄一個demo(順便宣傳用) 等告一個段落、技術移轉後就不太管了 無論如何，PC版搞成這樣NV很難說沒有責任
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可參考一下
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...d-nvidia-users/ In a recent interview with Ars, Rocksteady's Lead Engine Programmer Dustin Holm explained that a "whole team at Nvidia" was working alongside the company to develop the game. Rocksteady首席引擎程式設計師Dustin Holm說Arkham Knight在研發過程中， NV有一個整個團隊是和原團隊一起合作研發的... [Nvidia has] a team of people in their GameWorks division that develops this whole new set of technologies that do some really amazing stuff that's optimized to run on their cards. They then come to us with these proposals of some ideas of things that they can integrate in. A lot of the content is developed by them—we do collaborate on some things—but a lot of it is super technical. Like, they do a brilliant fluid simulation. Up until now, that kind of simulation has been way beyond the reach of what we can do in real time, but they've got some super big video cards that can run everything we've built, but they can run a little bit extra so they can run their own stuff on top as well. It's been the same process for all the games. 上面這段文章說明NV介入BATMAN:AK的研發相當深，不少內容甚至是NV 團隊設計的，雙方一直處於合作關係。NV的新技術讓原團隊很吃驚，比如一個 流體模擬的技術，原團隊認為他們在目前無法做得出來，但是NV有很好的配備 可以順跑，而且可以加上一些他們自己的東西(GAMEWORKS)，一般的遊戲設 計大抵如此... Despite all the reported problems with Arkham Knight, not everyone is suffering, with some users claiming the game runs perfectly fine on their hardware. Indeed, one resident of the Ars Orbiting HQ (Britannia Module) who played the game briefly last night didn't encounter any issues at all. What makes this whole thing even more odd is that the game is running on a modified version of Unreal Engine 3, an engine that has been doing the rounds for a very long time and scales well across a variety of hardware. 有些人沒遇到什麼大問題，玩起來似乎是OK...
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我想到當初我買NBA LIVE時
TMAC說感謝EA把我做那麼像 買回來時發現只是PS2的畫質而已 官網還放360的圖片欺騙大眾 後來我才知道有時候不能盡信官方發佈 所以我只信結果 |
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